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Usenet Abuse FAQ

NOTE: Fraudulent complaints received may be copied to the account that is the target of the complaint should they become excessive about non-abusive things. By mailing a complaint about a user that does not violate our policies you agree to the user receiving a copy. If the user is violating our policies, the account will be terminated without warning or notification.

Table of Contents

Q: Will we terminate an account for spamming?

A: Yes, if it is really spam. Our definition of spam is lots of messages essentially saying the same thing. We judge against the Breidbart Index. We will terminate an account for BI 20.

We will not take action because a user posted something someone thinks violates a FAQ and therefore has labeled the post spam. We will take action if the user is flooding a newsgroup.

If the user is posting a URL or advertisement:

We will take action if it is posted to many groups. We will also take action if it is a commercial advertisement posted to groups where the general topic of the group is completely unrelated. Affiliate links count as unrelated.


Q: Will we terminate an account for forging?

A: Yes. If it really is a forge. A forge is not having the same name, it is having the same email address. If a user is posting with your email address in their From: line we will terminate the account.

In extreme circumstances (it must be obvious and it is our judgment that is used) we will terminate an account if a user is deliberately spoofing you to cause trouble, but we will first warn that user to stop.

Please note that we do not act on third party complaints for spoofing.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting something someone found offensive?

A: No. Usenet is a global unmoderated discussion forum, there is such a vast range of who finds what offensive that there will always be something someone finds offensive in this type of environment. The answer to this is to ignore what you find offensive.


Q: Will we terminate an account for using filthy language?

A: No. It is a subjective term that becomes even more so in a global environment.


Q: Will we terminate an account for trolling?

A: No. It takes two parties to troll, one to post a troll message and one to reply. Both those that post the initial message and those that reply are responsible for the trolling. Nearly every time we have investigated a complaint it is nearly impossible to tell who is trolling who, so we do not involve ourselves in these situations.

However, if one of our users is in a group primarily to cause disruption above and beyond what looks to us to be normal for the group, we will warn our user and term the account if the behavior continues. We support freedom of speech to disagree, not to just be disruptive.


Q: Do we condone trolling?

A: No.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting binary messages in a non-binary group?

A: We will first ask them to stop. If they refuse we will terminate.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting child pornography or links to advertise child pornography?

A: Yes.


Q: Will we terminate an account for flaming?

A: No. Discussions often degenerate into flamefests on Usenet when there are disagreements. We do not take sides in a flamefest.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting personal information about another?

A: Yes if our user continues to do it deliberately to harass. While it is not illegal to post publicly available info, if it is being done as a means to harass and attack, we will terminate the account. Please note that personal info means name and address or phone, not name alone. Email address does not count as personal information.

Please note that we do not act on third party complaints regarding personal information.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting off topic?

A: No.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting racist messages?

A: No. One of the things we promote is freedom of speech. Although many find some views offensive, it is just a viewpoint. It is when that view becomes an action that causes harm that it should not be tolerated. Harm does not mean someone getting converted to that view.

If you are being attacked or harmed, it has crossed into a legal issue, then you should be pursuing this in a legal forum. We will comply with a subpoena for our logs.

There are instances, however, that we feel cross bounds and we will act on, e.g., deliberately posting racist messages just to stir things up rather than debate.


Q: Will we terminate an account for posting against the charter?

A: For the most part charters are a guide, especially in the alt hierarchy. We will not terminate an account for posting against some FAQ someone decided to post as rules in an alt group nor will we for posting off charter in an alt group. We are more strict regarding the big 8 and may issue a warning if someone refuses to abide by the charter when the majority in the group do.


Q: Will we terminate an account for forging approval headers or cancels?

A: Yes.


Q: Will we terminate an account for excessive morphing to evade kill files?

A: We will first warn them and if they do not stop, we will term the account. Please note that morphing involves changing the email address. Simply changing the from name is not morphing. You should be kill filing on email address, not name.


Q: Will we terminate an account for libel?

A: If it is proven in the court of law, yes. We are unable to judge whether something is libel. Only a court can judge libel. We will comply with a subpoena for our logs.



Q: Will we terminate an account for being annoying?

A: No. Usenet spans all race, age, sex, ideological, and cultural boundaries. It is a place where children act like adults and adults act like children.

This is why kill files exist. If someone annoys you by what they say, ignore them.


Final notes:

If you have questions about the BI or feel that these policies are unfair then visit news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. If they feel something in our policies is wrong, we will adjust it.

2023-02-03 12:18:29 microsoft.* hierarchy removed

More than 10 years after Microsoft shut down their news groups (microsoft.*) and the Usenet News server, the hierarchy has been removed from Eternal-September.

2017-09-05 09:38:05 Server news.eternal-september.org replaced

The old reader server news.eternal-september.org had to be replaced by new hardware just before the scheduled replacement date. The new server is up and running, DNS changes are underway. The new server is called reader.eternal-september.org, but will also be available under the usual name as soon as the DNS changes have fully propagated. Currently, connections on port 80 and 443 are not available yet. These will be available again soon. The new server has an SSL certificate for both reader.eternal-september.org and news.eternal-september.org. UUCP connectivity is currently not available, but will be re-established tomorrow.

2011-09-03 08:09:42 AT&T mail addresses banned

As AT&T's fancy blacklist rejects mails from Eternal-September.org (again), the following mail domains can not be used for registration as we will not be able to send you your access data:

att.net
ameritech.net
bellsouth.net
pacbell.net
prodigy.net

If you previously tried to register and did not receive your registration mail, please note that is due to your mail provider's policy. Thank you for your understanding.

2011-05-26 04:59:03 Server names

Due to recent incidents, please note that you should only use "news.eternal-september.org" as the server name in your client configuration. IP addresses and other server names may change any time without prior notice and hence become unavailable for usenet access. Exceptions are "reader80.eternal-september.org" for access on port 80 (NNTP), "reader443.eternal-september.org" for access on port 443 (NNTP/SSL), and "uucp.eternal-september.org" for UUCP access on port 540.

2010-04-02 18:56:02 UUCP service moved to uucp.eternal-september.org

As the domain motzarella.org is not resolved by DNS servers anymore, UUCP users were cut off on March 23, 2010 without prior notice. The UUCP service has now been re-established with the new system name of uucp.eternal-september.org. Subscribers are kindly requested to adjust their configuration accordingly. Client system names, login data and and newsgroup subscriptions continue to be valid.

2007-09-28 11:46:54 Anonymous complaints

Due to recent events I would like to point out that anonymous complaints (no full name and/or invalid mail address) will be ignored.

2007-02-19 21:21:04 TOR users

Users who would like to access Eternal-September.org via TOR are kindly requested to send a mail to news( AT )eternal-september( DOT )org.


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